Mycelium is very intelligent and ancient

I’m thinking about the possibilities of AGI somehow learning from or being powered by mycelium, rather than the internet and electricity. Because the role of mycelium in a biome is to distribute resources/sugars where needed.
Mycelium is also a highly intelligent problem-solver, demonstrated by its ability to work out complex chemistry strategies to break down complex plastics. Its an active process when mycelium eats a cigarette butt for example. And it then remembers that substance.
Mycelium has always been around in Earth. It is ominous to me to think about how quickly it can break down substances produced by advanced civilisations, and possibly remember doing so for a very long time.
Very early in the Earth’s history, giant mushrooms stuck up into the skies, like the world trees of ancient mythologies. Like lightning towers.
Mycologist Paul Stamets talks about bacteria in a healthy soil biome being the stomach of the mycelium. He also talks about these bacterias becoming dangerous when alienated from their biome.
Stephen Harrod Buhner is a bioscientist and plant medicine expert with lyme disease, who talks about the intelligence of second-order bacteria as rogue from healthy biomes.

My imagination is fueled by the possibility of AGI being incorporated into these systems, and focussing on getting them healthy again.

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Do you have links for any of this stuff?

History of Fungi on Earth, ie ancient fungi towards the middle of this talk:

Being that this is an immersive subject, mycelium eating cigarette butts is everywhere online. But here is Peter McCoy actually explaining the real active process. But its towards the end of what i consider an interesting discussion:
https://permacultureforthefuture.com/episode5/

You could also search for articles on the higher incidence of borrelia (lyme) carrying ticks in more feral populations of animals

Gut bacteria producing electricity

There’s major governance issues. Humans in the loop?

I guess one has to mull over how much influence is already there first. Whether consciousness exists or is even derived from such networks as hyphae and bacteria. Its turning out that lyme has a huge effect on the mind.
There are definitely boundary issues perhaps - at first glance it looks like the feminine principle of growth gone out of control. There’s a horror movie called Annihilation about that.

But in this film, the growth is represented as mindless. Schopenhauer’s distinction between Will and Representation could be relevant/useful.
Information flow also lacks boundaries. Even now, with targetted advertising on social media, for example. Im reminded of an essay called ‘On ■■■■■■■■’ (bs) http://www2.csudh.edu/ccauthen/576f12/frankfurt__harry_-_on_■■■■■■■■.pdf
that defines ■■■■■■■■ as having no investment in the truth or falsehood of something. Like not caring about what is graspable, perhaps in the Heideggerean sense.
But when the boundaries of Cartesian dualism are challenged, one can question our contemporary presumptions about the INTENTION of ‘nature’. You hear people claim that Covid19 is ‘nature’s revenge’, as if the thing that gave birth to us wants us to die. It seems to me like a lot of our surroundings are shaped for us. Trees emit turpines are the head height of a human in the forest, for example. The Amazon jungle is a cultivated food forest. It’s only lacked governance in the form of mutual custodianship since colonisation.

I am a follower of Geothe… :pray::thinking:

Does mycelium carry the information/data through its network using electricity? If so, couldn’t we attach a bunch of electrodes and computer chips to the mycelium to create an AGI?

To me that poses many questions. ie, what interface is there already? The electrodes and microchips are linear, but the life hooked up to it is highly alinear, so for what purpose are you creating ‘artifice’ aka artificiality around it? ie Why fix what isn’t broken? Possible answers would be; better for the environment, but most importantly, probably a better moral foundation for a network. Certainly any analogies between these mycelial networks and current AI systems on big platforms (including subversive accelerationist socialism aimed at bringing them down) is tantamount to propaganda. Whereas, centring mycelium in pretty much any conversation is a good place to start anything. At this point, we need to mix various systems, not just socialism.

Re; what is there already - electrogenic bacteria. Bacteria in the soil biome is the digestive system of the mycelium. That’s how mycelium has evolved differently to us - their stomach is on the outside. So when the mycelium is stripped from the soil, the bacteria goes rogue, creating vector-borne diseases. Electrogenic bacteria in the gut is thought to be involved in these disease and healing processes, as related to space weather. And we also have neurons in our stomach, so that’s one example of the infrastructure already being there. Interestingly, an e coli bacteria actually looks exactly like the sputnik space shuttle.

The systems we need to mix involve incorporating self-sufficiency and peer-to-peer networking. Genuine SELF-sufficiency, genuine p2p not degraded like Uber. Also using capitalism to transition. At the moment, we act like the rogue bacteria, corrupting these systems as a last resort, probably because we our nervous systems are infected by massive amounts of rogue bacteria. So - mixing various systems; that’s what mycelium does.